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    Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST
    Posted by: Stella on 1/08/12

    Here is one of my favourite examples of highly sophisticated
    coping strategies:

    http://www.10news.com/news/15274005/detail.html

    On 1/08/12, mm wrote:
    > And it's amazing how many of them used to get through the
    > system on a smile and good behavior. Especially before
    > there were the fairly recent initiatives (testing, etc.) to
    > catch them. We used to have them as guest speakers and you
    > would always wonder how it was possible, until you heard
    > them speak, saw how nicely groomed and dressed many were.
    > For many women who used to remain homemakers, there never
    > were the challenges of the workplaces we have today. And
    > lots of jobs used to be available for people with limited
    > literacy skills. Today these are automated or offshored.
    > etc.
    >
    > On 1/07/12, Stella wrote:
    >> Thank you! That is what I wanted to know. To assume
    >> that someone who is
    >> illiterate cannot cope in society, i.e., drive safely
    >> is erroneous. As I said in my original post, people who
    >> cannot read or write at a literate level often have
    >> highly sophisticated coping strategies and can get
    >> along very well in daily life.
    >>
    >> On 1/07/12, LR wrote:
    >>> Testing Accommodation from Ministry of
    >>> Transportation: If you have difficulties with reading
    >>> or literacy skills you can complete the knowledge
    >>> part of the driver�s test with some help. It is
    >>> possible to do the test verbally or to have extra
    >>> time if you struggle with reading or completing
    >>> tests.
    >>>
    >>> I know several highly intelligent people with
    >>> learning disabilities that make reading extremely
    >>> difficult for them, but wouldn't affect their
    >>> knowledge and understanding of the rules of the road.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 1/06/12, Stella wrote:
    >>>> Many illiterate people have very sophisticated
    >>>> coping strategies. Why would you assume it is scary
    >>>> that he is driving? What is puzzling is how someone
    >>>> who doesn't know the alphabet and can't read,
    >>>> passed a written driver's exam.
    >>>>
    >>>> On 1/05/12, hmmmm... wrote:
    >>>>> You mentioned that students can receive OSSD and
    >>>>> not read. I can confirm this. I work with a man
    >>>>> who has an OSSD but does not know his alphabet
    >>>>> and cannot read. What is scary is that every day
    >>>>> he gets in his car and drives 30-45 minutes using
    >>>>> major highways to work.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 1/04/12, luv2teach wrote:
    >>>>>> Wow! That is shocking! I teach grade eight and
    >>>>>> I am very aware of how far behind many of my
    >>>>>> students are who enter the essential/locally
    >>>>>> developed courses. I can't imagine how they
    >>>>>> could be prepared on par with an academic
    >>>>>> student by the end of high school! Is there at
    >>>>>> least something on the transcript that clearly
    >>>>>> indicates the level of course taken?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 1/04/12, HST wrote:
    >>>>>>> Yes, if they receive 30 credits and take the
    >>>>>>> literacy course as one of their English
    >>>>>>> credits, they get a diploma like anyone else.
    >>>>>>> Nothing would even stop them from being an
    >>>>>>> Ontario scholar. Some students who cannot get
    >>>>>>> past the 8 credits take a certificate, but
    >>>>>>> very few. In my opinion, my children's high
    >>>>>>> school diplomas are not worth the paper they
    >>>>>>> are written on since students in all three
    >>>>>>> levels get the same diploma (in Ontario).
    >>>>>>> Many OSSD holders cannot read.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> HST
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 1/03/12, luv2teach wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Do students who go through high school
    >>>>>>>> taking the essential or "locally
    >>>>>>>> developed" courses receive an OSSD? I
    >>>>>>>> understood they received a certificate but
    >>>>>>>> not a diploma?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Lynn
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 1/03/12, HST wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> They are placed in essential level which
    >>>>>>>>> is taught at a grade 4 or 5 level of
    >>>>>>>>> difficulty. An OSSD does not state level.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> n 1/03/12, betty wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/11, Anne wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure how a student who reads
    >>>>>>>>>>> at a grade two level can achieve a
    >>>>>>>>>>> level one in a grade seven class. It
    >>>>>>>>>>> cries out for an IEP and assessment.
    >>>>>>>>>>> I realize the scenario I've described
    >>>>>>>>>>> is not the same as the one posed by
    >>>>>>>>>>> the OP, but I use it to show how some
    >>>>>>>>>>> abilities are such that level one is
    >>>>>>>>>>> a challenge.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Anne, this student was on an IEP in an
    >>>>>>>>>> HSP class from grade 4-8. The mother
    >>>>>>>>>> claims that when she got to High School
    >>>>>>>>>> "they said there was nothing wrong
    >>>>>>>>>> with her" and claims she is
    >>>>>>>>>> successfully doing a regular Gr 9
    >>>>>>>>>> program without any assistance,
    >>>>>>>>>> modifications or accommodations. She's
    >>>>>>>>>> using this as her reason for refusing
    >>>>>>>>>> to have a younger child, in grade 2,
    >>>>>>>>>> assessed and given support in Resource.
    >>>>>>>>>> I was wondering what happens when a
    >>>>>>>>>> child who is functioning far below
    >>>>>>>>>> grade level arrives in high school.


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    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Are there IEP's in High School?, 11/19/11, by betty .
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School?, 11/19/11, by lzbth.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School?, 11/19/11, by Edith.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School?, 11/25/11, by Anne.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School?, 11/26/11, by Edith.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School?, 12/29/11, by Anne.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School?, 1/03/12, by betty.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School?, 1/03/12, by HST.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/03/12, by luv2teach.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/04/12, by HST.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/04/12, by luv2teach.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/05/12, by hmmmm....
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/06/12, by Stella.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/06/12, by Edith.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/07/12, by LR.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/07/12, by Stella.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/08/12, by mm.
  • Re: Are there IEP's in High School? to HST, 1/08/12, by Stella.

     
     

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